Wrong temp detection on E8200 and Asus P5B mobo

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Wrong temp detection on E8200 and Asus P5B mobo

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Hi ppl,

Just installed CoreTemp 0.96.1 on my rig and surprise: it didn't detect correctly my temp. It only displays 50 deg. C on both cores no matter if i'm running prime95 or if my system is idle. I think it's a bug or something.

If you have any idea on what i'm talking about please reply.

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It a problem with your CPU, please look here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/sho ... 38&page=13
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I don't think that's the CPU, more likely i suspect the motherboard BIOS.

I have a suggestion for you: please add a new option to CT: "Start with Windows"
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I believe it's the CPU. Did you read my link?

And that's in the to-do list :)
Main rig:
AMD Ryzen 9 5950X (True Spirit 140 Direct) / Mobo: Asrock Fatal1ty X470 / EVO 970 500GB + WD Blue 250GB + HDD / GPU: Dell RX 570 4GB / Mem: 2x16GB DDR4-3200 G.Skill 32GTZKW TridentZ - 32GB total / PSU: Seasonic Prime Ultra Gold 650W
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Core i7 2600K 3.4GHz @ 4.3GHz (Scythe Mugen2) / Mobo: Biostar TP67XE / 2x Inland Pro 120GB + HDDs / GPU: ATi Mach64 VT2 / Mem: 4x4GB DDR3-1600 G.Skill 8GBXL RipJawsX - 16GB total / PSU: Seasonic S12II 620W.
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AMD Phenom II X4 B93 / Mobo: ASUS M2A-VM / GPU: ATI Radeon Xpress X1250 / Crucial M4 120GB / Mem: 2x2GB DDR2-800 - 4GB total / PSU: Antec 380W.

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Yes, you're right...

BTW: Why Everest UE can read the temp. (not the core temp) ???
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Because it's reading the motherboard sensor.
Main rig:
AMD Ryzen 9 5950X (True Spirit 140 Direct) / Mobo: Asrock Fatal1ty X470 / EVO 970 500GB + WD Blue 250GB + HDD / GPU: Dell RX 570 4GB / Mem: 2x16GB DDR4-3200 G.Skill 32GTZKW TridentZ - 32GB total / PSU: Seasonic Prime Ultra Gold 650W
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Core i7 2600K 3.4GHz @ 4.3GHz (Scythe Mugen2) / Mobo: Biostar TP67XE / 2x Inland Pro 120GB + HDDs / GPU: ATi Mach64 VT2 / Mem: 4x4GB DDR3-1600 G.Skill 8GBXL RipJawsX - 16GB total / PSU: Seasonic S12II 620W.
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Core i3 7130U / MiniPC / SanDisk SDSSDP-128G / GPU: Intel HD 620 / Mem: 1x8GB DDR3L-1600
Xeon X3430 2.40GHz @ 3.06GHz or Core i3 540 3.06GHz @ 4.0GHz (Freezer 7 Pro) / Mobo: MSI H55M-ED55 / PNY CS1111 240GB / GPU: ATI FirePro V3800 / Mem: 4x2GB DDR3-1600 G.Skill 4GBRL RipJaws - 8GB total / PSU: Seasonic S12II 620W
AMD Phenom II X4 B93 / Mobo: ASUS M2A-VM / GPU: ATI Radeon Xpress X1250 / Crucial M4 120GB / Mem: 2x2GB DDR2-800 - 4GB total / PSU: Antec 380W.

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The Coolest wrote:It a problem with your CPU, please look here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/sho ... 38&page=13
I've read the above link, but I'm unsure that it is a CPU issue as the link is concerned with Yorkfield CPU's, but the E8xxx series are Wolfdale.

I have a similar problem to the OP in that Core Temp gives me a static idle reading; ie when windows loads and Core Temp is running it reports a value that doesn't seem to change.

My situation differs in that the value Core Temp displays is 45c, but when I run Orthos to stress both cores, the Core Temp reading does gradually rise to 49/50c, depending on the room temperature. The readings from both cores aren't exactly the same all the time either, you get the typical sporadic 1/2c difference between the 2 core temperatures.

So it looks to me as if Core Temp will only register any changes in temperature if my cores heat up to over 45c.

The latest beta of SpeedFan also exhibits this behavior; ie displays a seemingly static temperature, but when both cores are under full load, the temperature reading does rise. The only difference is that the temperature SpeedFan initially displays is 40c, and when the displayed temperatures do rise, they're exactly 5c lower than the Core Temp readings; ie the values displayed in Core Temp and SpeedFan mirror each other when they rise and fall, but with a 5c difference between the values shown.

Have you any thoughts/input about this anomaly please?

TIA, newbie dagwoood :)

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There can not be any bugs in retreiving the temps because if there was something wrong, it wouldn't have worked at all, on any CPU (as the code is identical for all Yonah, Conroe and Penryn).
Yorkfield is simply two Wolfdales stuck together, so the point you were making about the thread on XS talking about a Yorkfield doesn't hold water.
Anyway there seems to be a major issue with DTS and 45nm... :(
Main rig:
AMD Ryzen 9 5950X (True Spirit 140 Direct) / Mobo: Asrock Fatal1ty X470 / EVO 970 500GB + WD Blue 250GB + HDD / GPU: Dell RX 570 4GB / Mem: 2x16GB DDR4-3200 G.Skill 32GTZKW TridentZ - 32GB total / PSU: Seasonic Prime Ultra Gold 650W
NAS:
Core i7 2600K 3.4GHz @ 4.3GHz (Scythe Mugen2) / Mobo: Biostar TP67XE / 2x Inland Pro 120GB + HDDs / GPU: ATi Mach64 VT2 / Mem: 4x4GB DDR3-1600 G.Skill 8GBXL RipJawsX - 16GB total / PSU: Seasonic S12II 620W.
Secondary rigs:
Core i3 7130U / MiniPC / SanDisk SDSSDP-128G / GPU: Intel HD 620 / Mem: 1x8GB DDR3L-1600
Xeon X3430 2.40GHz @ 3.06GHz or Core i3 540 3.06GHz @ 4.0GHz (Freezer 7 Pro) / Mobo: MSI H55M-ED55 / PNY CS1111 240GB / GPU: ATI FirePro V3800 / Mem: 4x2GB DDR3-1600 G.Skill 4GBRL RipJaws - 8GB total / PSU: Seasonic S12II 620W
AMD Phenom II X4 B93 / Mobo: ASUS M2A-VM / GPU: ATI Radeon Xpress X1250 / Crucial M4 120GB / Mem: 2x2GB DDR2-800 - 4GB total / PSU: Antec 380W.

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Post by dagwoood »

Thanks for the clarification The Coolest.

As I posted earlier, Core Temp only displays temperature changes above 45c. Would these reported temperatures be accurate do you think?

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I've talked with some ppl from Asus and they told me that a new BIOS version is on it's way that will fix the abnormal temp. readings (???).
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Post by dagwoood »

rares wrote:I've talked with some ppl from Asus and they told me that a new BIOS version is on it's way that will fix the abnormal temp. readings (???).
Thanks for the noob; at least that sounds encouraging 8)

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